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Political commentator and streamer Nick Fuentes recently blasted Ben Shapiro for releasing a 40-minute podcast episode with no ads about him in light of Fuentes's highly debated interview with Tucker Carlson, which aired on October 28, 2025. For the uninitiated, Fuentes made several anti-semitic remarks amid the interview, saying that "organized Jewry" was running the United States and claiming to be a fan of Soviet politician Joseph Stalin. The Bulwark @BulwarkOnlineLINKNick Fuentes: "It was December 18...That's Joseph Stalin's birthday. I'm a fan."Tucker Carlson: "You're a fan of Stalin?"Nick Fuentes: "Always an admirer."Tucker Carlson: "Well that's uh...Okay. We'll circle back to that."Spoiler: Tucker never circles back.On November 3, 2025, Ben Shapiro addressed the interview and condemned Tucker Carlson for platforming Nick Fuentes, whom he claimed had "borderline views on race, a peculiar obsession with what he calls 'organized Jewry', and a rather sad relationship with the female sex." During the latest episode of The Ben Shapiro Show, the podcaster also included several clips from Fuentes' show America First, where he can be seen making sexist, racist, and anti-semitic comments. Shapiro, who is Jewish, also called Fuentes a "Hitler admirer and Holocaust denier," and wondered why Carlson declined to challenge Fuentes' remarks and instead chose to give him an open platform and make his views "more palatable" to the general audience."Fuestes is a 27-year-old man who has dubbed himself the leader of a movement called the 'groyers.' He has a large audience of alienated young white men in particular, and he's earned increased media attention over the course of the past few years... Now, from Tucker Carlson's interview, you might have gathered that Fuentes has some borderline views on race, a peculiar obsession with what he calls 'organized Jewry', and a rather sad relationship with the female sex," Shapiro said.He continued:“Probably you came away thinking for the most part that Fuentes lives on the radical edge of normality. You would think that if you watched the interview, because Tucker Carlson decided that it was important not only to host Fuentes but to smooth over his views, water them down, and make them far more palatable to a normal audience."Exploring Nick Fuentes' response to Ben ShapiroDuring a subsequent episode of his America First show, Nick Fuentes responded to Ben Shapiro's criticism of him, claiming that the podcaster's 40-minute episode was a "full-fledged Fuentes updates clip show." He also called out Ben Shapiro for having no ads in the podcast to seemingly denote that he was addressing a serious subject, saying:"Today, it was a clip show. Today, it was a full-fledged Fuentes updates clip show... One clip after the other, 40 minutes, no ads, that's how you know they mean business. When Ben Shapiro turns down the money from the advertisers, when Ben Shapiro doesn't do 50 ad reads in a 50-minute video, that's how you know they mean business.""When you're talking about anti-semitism, there's simply no time. There's no time, we mean business, cause this is something we really care about. No ads, 40-minute video."Fuentes further added that he believed Shapiro sounded like an "SJW", an acronym for "Social Justice Warrior," despite claiming that he was against them. The America First host also called Shapiro "pathetic," suggesting that the podcaster targeted him to gain more views. He compared Shapiro's show to Candace Owens', alleging that the latter received two to three million views per video while Shapiro gets half a million views per video."And about 50 percent of it was just my clips, 'Fuentes this, Fuentes that he's a Nazi, sexist, holocaust denier...' I though Shapiro was against SJWs. Now he sounds like one of them. I thought he was against liberal tears and cancel culture and safe spaces. Now you sound like one of them," Fuentes added.According to The Guardian, Nick Fuentes' recent interview with Tucker Carlson resulted in unrest among conservatives. While some criticized Fuentes for his inflammatory remarks and Tucker Carlson for platforming him, the Heritage Foundation, an American right-wing think tank, defended them. Kevin Roberts, the foundation's head, took to X on October 30 to post a video in response to the backlash, and hit back against the “venomous coalition” against Carlson, whom he added was a "close friend of the Heritage Foundation." Roberts further added that while he disagreed and abhorred Nick Fuentes' remarks, "canceling him is not the answer, either.”
