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ABC’s The View October 30, 2025 11:02:57 a.m. Eastern WHOOPI GOLDBERG: Democrats are still demanding a negotiation on Obamacare extensions before they'll reopen. So, the other side has to blink or something. I'm not sure what that says. But will the blame game continue? And that's the question. 11:04:47 a.m. Eastern SARA HAINES: My take on this and Democrats are standing for human rights across the board. So, they not only believe food should be provided, they happen to break with Republicans. They feel healthcare is also a human right, which is why they're holding on to this shutdown. I think it would behoove them politically – and I hate talking politically when we're talking about peoples’ meals and healthcare – but arguably, they need to sign the CR bill because when the Republicans either come forward with a plan and we fix healthcare or Democrats call them on their bluff, that will fall solely on the shoulders of Republicans. Like the shutdown now, it's murky, who's up, who's down. If people don't get their healthcare and it spikes 114 percent, we're looking at about five to seven million people that will lose it all together because they can't afford it in this country. That will be a game-changing moment and it will be clear who's at fault on that. JOY BEHAR: What is the endgame exactly for the Republicans though? To trying to hold people hostage against their healthcare to give more tax breaks to rich people? I mean, what are they trying to do? SUNNY HOSTIN: I don't think they have a plan. I – And I don’t even – I don’t think it's close as to who's to blame for this. The Republicans run the Senate, the House, they also run the White House, arguably they run the Supreme Court. They are in charge. HAINES: Most Americans agree with you, Sunny. HOSTIN: This is a choice by the Republican Party. This is a choice. They don't care that much that premiums will go up 114 percent. They do not care that 40 million people will lose their benefits. They just do not care.