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CLEVELAND, Ohio - While Gov. Mike DeWine said he wanted to ban micro-prop bets, he’s backing down now that Major League Baseball has placed restrictions on betting on individual pitches, capped wagers at $200 and prohibited those bets from being grouped with other bets. We’re talking about the need for legislative oversight, rather than sports policing itself on Today in Ohio. Listen online here. Editor Chris Quinn hosts our daily half-hour news podcast, with editorial board member Lisa Garvin, impact editor Leila Atassi and content director Laura Johnston. You’ve been sending Chris lots of thoughts and suggestions on our from-the-newsroom text account, in which he shares what we’re thinking about at cleveland.com. You can sign up here: https://joinsubtext.com/chrisquinn. Here’s what we’re asking about today: Big news involving Cedar Point. What does a new lawsuit say about the merger of Cedar Point’s parent company with the Six Flags amusement park company? With baseball fans wondering whether they can ever trust what they see on the field again, following big indictments of two Guardians pitchers, Major League Baseball thinks it has a solution. What is it? Cleveland Hopkins is not one of the markets that the FAA has focused on for reducing flights as a result of the government shutdown. But we’re seeing flights canceled every day. How many? With Cuyahoga County slashing social services to the bone to deal with budget issues, and with all the controversy surrounding the Sheriff’s downtown patrol unit, how in the world does the sheriff propose expanding that unit, especially when his own people say his budget is in the red already? Millennia Companies, in huge trouble with foreclosure actions on two of Cleveland’s iconic buildings, was hit with yet another foreclosure this week. What for? Leila’s column this week put more clarity than I’ve ever seen on the all-but guaranteed dire ramifications of defunding Planned Parenthood. Leila, how were you able to so clearly lay out what’s next? Anyone driving down I-90 west of Cleveland will notice this. What is the new name of the Lake Erie Crushers baseball stadium that simply rolls right off the tongue? We never did get a real answer to why wildly popular weatherman Mark Johnson was booted by WEWS Channel 5. Whatever it was couldn’t have been all that bad, though, because’s got a new home on Cleveland’s airwaves. Where is he going? Bill Murray was in town for a show over the weekend, and he wanted a pierogi afterward. Where did he go for that and more Cleveland treats? More Today in Ohio Is your electric bill spiking? The Ohio battle over who pays for data center power demands “Biden’s brain works just fine:” Westlake native who advised him says it’s Trump who’s fading Cleveland’s $2 million annual loss on Browns stadium: City is better off without the team We have an Apple podcasts channel exclusively for this podcast. Subscribe here. Do you get your podcasts on Spotify? Find us here. RadioPublic is another popular podcast vehicle, and we are here. On PodParadise, find us here. And on PlayerFM, we are here. Read the automated transcript below. Because it’s a computer-generated transcript, it contains many errors and misspellings. Chris Quinn (00:00.988) It’s kind of amazing how Cedar Point has become a central news story in Northeast Ohio this year. Lots happening there and it’s first up on Today in Ohio, the news podcast discussion from cleveland.com and The Plain Dealer. I’m Chris Quinn here with Layla Atassi, Lisa Garvin, and Laura Johnston. And Layla, like I said, big news involving Cedar Point. What does a new lawsuit say about the merger of Cedar Point’s parent company? with the Six Flags Amusement Park Company. Leila (00:31.68) Well, Chris, this is a federal class action lawsuit that claims that Six Flags misled investors about just how run down its amusement parks were before the merger with Cedar Fair last year. The suit was filed by a Michigan pension fund, and it says Six Flags bragged about these transformational investments while it was actually cutting staff and putting off some basic repairs at its legacy parks. When the merger closed, The problems reportedly caught up with them. Operating costs soared, profits plunged, and the stock price fell off a cliff from more than $55 a share to around $16 this week. So executives who led the merger, including former Cedar Fair CEO Richard Zimmerman, are named in this suit. And they’ve since announced that they’re stepping down. The lawsuit accuses the company of filing misleading financial statements with the SEC and It seeks class action status and damages that could total hundreds of millions. Six Flags so far has not responded publicly about this yet. Chris Quinn (01:35.878) was Six Flags can’t afford hundreds of millions of dollars. It would cause huge deterioration of the parks. wonder, I don’t know if this is even possible, but I wonder whether this could lead to the separation of the two companies where Cedar Fair again becomes a standalone because Cedar Fair, as we know, was much more dedicated to quality than kind of the low rent Six Flags. But if it’s just sucking money out of the company, Leila (01:38.74) No. Chris Quinn (02:03.056) This is bad, bad news for Cedar Point because Six Flags then would not be able to maintain the high customer service. Leila (02:10.518) Right. You really have to wonder what Cedar Fair’s leadership was thinking when they agreed to this deal. If the claims in this lawsuit are true that Six Flags was already running its parks into the ground before the merger, why would they take that risk? Cedar Fair had a solid reputation. They were profitable. They have a loyal fan base. And now the combined company is facing this class action lawsuit that could be just financially ruinous. And it makes you question whether Cedar Fair saw warning signs and just ignored them, or if they were sold a bill of goods that was false. And if that’s the case, then maybe there is a way out of this and return to the Cedar Fair that we knew and loved. Chris Quinn (02:57.936) We all know, we all knew then that Six Flags couldn’t hold a candle to what Cedar Fair did. The whole explanation was that Six Flags was going to incorporate Cedar Fair’s customer service business into what it does to try and improve its parks. But this is frightening if this is true. But I do fear that the ultimate result is stockholders will be made whole, but park goers will end up having a much worse experience. Leila (03:03.564) Right. Leila (03:24.342) Yes. Chris Quinn (03:26.798) really bad news for Cedar Point unless they can shake loose of six flags altogether and get back to doing what they did best. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. With baseball fans wondering whether they can ever trust what they see on the field again, following big indictments of two Cleveland Guardians pitchers, Major League Baseball thinks it has a solution. Lisa, it seems to me it goes halfway. What is it? Lisa Garvin (03:41.955) you Lisa Garvin (03:53.795) Well, it seems to me like they closed the barn door after the horse done runoff, but Major League Baseball is restricting sports bets on individual pitches, and they’re also capping those bets at $200 and bans grouping of these so-called micro bets with other wagers that is known as a parlay. So this is effective immediately. They hope with this rule to reduce payouts and make it harder to put more money on those wager types. Like I said, they’re called micro bets. You can bet on an individual pitch or an individual play. They said it’s a big risk to the integrity of both the game and the players involved because it focuses on a single event that’s determined by the actions of a single player like Emmanuel Classe, allegedly throwing balls in the dirt. They usually don’t impact the game outcome, however, and some of the questionable games with Klaus A, they didn’t win. They say that prop bets are less risky. That’s multiple events that evolve more than one player, like hit numbers and so on and so forth. So MLB commissioner Rob Manford Jr. praised Governor DeWine’s leadership in this issue. DeWine’s been very vocal about prop bets and he wants other pro sports to follow. But here’s the thing. MLB officially partners with FanDuel, one of the big online betting sites. So FanDuel president Christian Gnetsky says, this shows that the industry has a commitment to prevent abuse. Chris Quinn (05:21.724) Look, Mike DeWine is compromised here because he partly owns a minor league baseball team. He should not be praising this deal. Baseball should not be regulating itself. We need states or the federal government to ban these bets. It’s possible that Class A threw the playoffs last year when the Guardians had a real chance. Remember, they exited the playoffs way earlier than they should have, and he didn’t pitch well. Lisa Garvin (05:50.36) Mm-hmm. Chris Quinn (05:51.708) Did he get paid to throw that? Did we lose the potential for a championship because a pitcher got bought off? You can’t say that’s ridiculous given what he’s charged with. What’s sad to me is states were looking to regulate this and baseball said, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold off. We got this. And they’ve come out with a plan that allows the bets to continue saying, we’ll cap them. The last entity that should regulate betting in baseball. Lisa Garvin (06:02.499) Mm-hmm. Chris Quinn (06:21.462) is baseball, which as you know, is making money off it with their partnership. This is absolutely wrong. It’s not going to bring trust back. This is the whole the whole game of baseball is in jeopardy here. Lisa Garvin (06:26.595) Mm-hmm. Lisa Garvin (06:35.565) Well, and why would pro sports leagues partner with online betting companies? Why would they? I I understand it’s all about the money, but it just has a really bad look. Chris Quinn (06:45.66) Right, it should just be flat out banned. need to get back. For 100 years since the Black Sox scandal, baseball has largely avoided this. They had the Pete Rose thing and a few one-offs, but the game itself has never been this much at risk. We got two, and it happened to be in Cleveland, pitchers accused of throwing bad pitches to make some extra money. The other thing that throws me about this, these guys make millions of dollars. and were getting $5,000 or $7,500 to do this. I don’t get it. This would be like me offering Laura 50 cents. Why are they compromising their entire future for by their standard, a paltry sum of money? Nothing. Any idea? Anybody have a? Lisa Garvin (07:33.347) Some have theorized that they’re being pressured by organized crime. I really don’t know. But I mean, the scope of the indictment was really kind of frightening. mean, apparently, Class A looped Maurice Ortiz into it. And it’s been going on for at least a couple of years. So I was surprised by the scope of the indictment. Chris Quinn (07:54.126) Yeah, it’s terrible. It threatens sports and look if it’s happening in baseball, it’s happening in basketball, it’s happening in football, and until professional sports realizes just how much is at risk here and stops it, this is trouble. And of course, it’s based in Cleveland. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Cleveland Hopkins is not one of the markets that the FAA has focused on for reducing flights as a result of the government shutdown, but we’re seeing flights canceled every day. And even though there seems to be a deal that will be inked this week on the shutdown ending it, the flights aren’t coming back right away. How many have been canceled so far, Laura? Laura (08:32.418) We talked about we’re talking about a dozen on Monday alone. Sunday, there was about 18 cancellations at Cleveland, 49 delays nationwide. Almost 3000 flights were canceled. That was 10 percent of the total. There’s also wintry weather that was affecting flights throughout the Midwest. So you can’t say it’s all dependent on this government shutdown. But yeah, this is we’ve talked about these air traffic controllers before who are working 60 hour weeks, not getting paid, not sure how that they can get food on the table for their families, so wanted to work other jobs. So they were, the federal government said, look, you’ve got to cut back. So this is this federal mandate to reduce flying because of those staffing shortages and the air traffic controller fatigue. It really did feel like people who weren’t on SNAP or weren’t employed by the government was like, yeah, there is a real cost to this government shutdown. Chris Quinn (09:27.568) The problem they face at this point, and we heard from a lot of our readers who said this, is because they could not trust the airlines to be running efficiently at Thanksgiving. A lot of people canceled flights or aren’t flying. So I suspect that the airlines will continue to cancel flights because they’re not full, that this is going to have much longer, a longer runway than we thought. And I don’t know when everything will be back to normal, maybe by Christmas. Laura (09:38.286) Mm-hmm. Laura (09:55.747) I mean, they’re hoping they can get it back up and running by Thanksgiving. But you’re right. Starting today, the airlines are reducing flights even more because of this FAA order. They’re reporting 1,600 cancellations for today already. So that was 12 from Hopkins, like Atlanta, New York, Detroit, Fort Lauderdale. So yeah, if you’re traveling, I agree. Like, stay home, stay closer to home. This is not a time that I want to be sitting in an airport. Chris Quinn (10:22.49) No, you’d have to be crazy to trust the airlines right now unless they give you such low prices to entice you back. I don’t see people trusting this. Who wants to spend Thanksgiving stuck in the airport? Lisa Garvin (10:34.249) I did read this morning that most of these planes are in the wrong place. They’re not where they’re supposed to be, so they have to reposition all these planes. Chris Quinn (10:38.436) Yeah. Right. Laura (10:38.798) Ow. Chris Quinn (10:42.396) Yeah, it’s a mess and it’s going to take a while to get streamlined. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. With Cuyahoga County slashing social services to the bone to deal with budget issues and with all the controversy surrounding the sheriff’s downtown patrol unit, which they’ve now given some euphemism to, how in the world does the sheriff propose expanding that unit, especially when his own people say his budget is in the red already? Layla, at least the county council is skeptical. What’s going on? Leila (11:13.622) Yeah, so right now the community support unit, that’s the rebranded downtown safety patrol that’s been so controversial. They have 10 deputies and one sergeant. And Sheriff Harold Preetel wants to grow it to 12 deputies and two sergeants so he can field two squads that cover the county seven days a week. He says police departments are already calling for help and that expanding would make the team more flexible and responsive. But, you know, here’s the catch. His own fiscal officers say the sheriff’s office is already in the red. They’re projecting a $15 million shortfall and likely to blow past overtime budget again next year. County Executive Chris Renane’s two-year plan actually depends on the sheriff cutting overtime, not adding staff. know, county council for their part, they didn’t push back too hard on this. Sonny Simon questioned whether the money exists, but... She didn’t tell Pretel to drop the idea entirely. Michael Gallagher re-upped his frustration that Cleveland gets most of the benefit and still isn’t helping to pay for it. And Pretel insists that the unit has proven its worth. He says that nearly 1,000 traffic citations have been written, more than 100 warrants were served, they’ve taken 114 guns off the street. But he also acknowledged that the expansion plan is, quote, aspirational, which is... Probably the perfect word given the county’s budget mess. Chris Quinn (12:41.104) Well, if I’m reading between the lines, what the council is saying is you have a budget. If you think you can do this within your budget without busting the budget, OK, but we’re going to give you a specific line item for this unit so that we’re not fudging this at all. You’re going to live within the exact budget for this unit. And that’s it. And if that’s the case, then there’s no way he can do what he wants. There’s not enough money there. And why is Ronane not reining this in? This is not where the county should be spending extra money. The county should be spending extra money to rebuild the social services that it’s cutting and to help Metro Health. Leila (13:19.872) Yeah, you’re absolutely right. And it’s wild for the sheriff to bring this proposal to them. mean, not long ago, everyone was questioning whether this unit should even exist after those deadly chases downtown for him to approach them and say, let’s expand it. It’s like, you know, just because they changed the name from downtown safety patrol to community support unit, he expects all of that criticism to evaporate. Chris Quinn (13:47.728) They claim, and I don’t know that we’ve done anything to verify this, but they claim this unit, in addition to doing downtown, has gone out to the suburbs for carnivals and fairs and things, because we’ve seen a lot of hooliganism at these to keep the peace and that there is a demand for that. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a demand for that. I would like to see the actual hours they’ve spent doing that as opposed to running around downtown chasing people for bad taillights. Leila (14:10.88) Yeah. I mean, it’s not that big of a union. You can’t be in all places at once. So you’re talking about 10 deputies. I’m sure that they probably spend most of their time downtown. mean, maybe occasionally send a couple deputies out to a fair. That’s, that’s yeah, I think that’s overblown. Chris Quinn (14:17.402) Right. Chris Quinn (14:23.814) Right. Chris Quinn (14:28.316) Okay, you’re listening to Today in Ohio. Millennia Companies is already in huge trouble with foreclosure actions on two of Cleveland’s iconic buildings. And now it’s been hit with yet another Cleveland foreclosure. What for, Lisa? Lisa Garvin (14:45.891) Yeah, this is number three. So the Ohio Water Development Authority has filed a foreclosure suit against Millennia for defaulting on a $3 million loan that was supposed to be for the conversion of 75 public square into apartments. Millennia, the suit says, hasn’t made payments since July 2, 2023, and they owe $3.4 million, and that includes principal, interest, and late and legal fees. So the plaintiff seek appointment of a receiver and a potential judgment of deficiency against millennia CEO, Frank Sinito and his wife, Melisse, who co-signed on the loan, Sinito stepped down, but he still owns millennia companies. So their chief investment officer, Angela Sinito, so it’s a family affair. She said the suit was unexpected and disappointing. She says 75 Public Square has strong potential because of Southwest, or rather Sherwin Williams developing their headquarter district downtown. And she says that discussions with the lender are ongoing. But this is the third lawsuit, as I said, other lenders seeking to foreclose on the Centennial Building at 9th and Euclid, and also the Statler Building. And these were all... you know, vintage, you know, old buildings that they were trying to convert into apartments, but it sounds like they got in over their head. Chris Quinn (16:06.51) way over their head. It’s cascading now and at some point there’s no digging out despite what they say. You now have three banks, three investors saying you’re not paying your bills, we don’t trust you. And as we discussed last week in the case of the Centennial, the former Huntington building, it’s seriously deteriorating. So bad news for millennia, bad news for downtown Cleveland. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Layla’s Calm this week put more clarity than I’ve ever seen on the all but guaranteed dire ramifications of defunding Planned Parenthood. Layla, how are you able to so clearly lay out what’s next? Leila (16:44.386) Thanks, Chris. What I really tried to do in this column was strip away the politics and look at what actually happens when states cut Planned Parenthood out of Medicaid the way Ohio is doing now, because we know how this goes. If you just look elsewhere for the evidence, we’ve seen it in Texas, in Iowa, in Indiana. Clinics close, disease rates spike, maternal deaths increase, and then cost to taxpayers climb. And it’s a pattern. that is just heartbreakingly consistent. And the data makes those patterns really clear. Texas, for example, defunded Planned Parenthood in 2011. Within two years, births paid for by Medicaid jumped 27 % because those women did not have access to birth control. Maternal deaths doubled. And then in Iowa, gonorrhea cases almost doubled after their clinics closed. In Indiana, a whole HIV outbreak erupted. because a Planned Parenthood testing site had shut down. It was the only free testing site in that rural region. Out of fewer than 24,000 residents, more than 200 people were diagnosed with HIV infection. That’s an incident rate that’s more than 50 times the national average and has been considered one of the worst HIV outbreaks in US history. So when Ohio officials target Planned Parenthood because they hate the institution for the abortion services it provides, The evidence shows that what they’re really doing is dismantling the safety net that protects public health. And that’s what I wanted readers to see, that these are not abstractions. These are real people who will lose access to care, and the consequences will show up in the data within a year. Chris Quinn (18:26.362) I like the way you started this by saying, look, this is not about abortion. That’s not what they do. This is about all the ways women, especially women in need, will suffer as a result of this. But sadly, for the Republicans, all they see is abortion. Planned Parenthood, for them, is inexorably tied to abortion. They just want to punish it. And so, as you point out, there was no money, no government money, going to abortion. at Planned Parenthood. That was dried up a long time ago. This is about women’s health, but they don’t care. And the other reason I don’t think they care, these are poor people, right? And the Republicans have shown they don’t care about the poor people. They just care about the rich people. That’s why they keep giving more money to them. Leila (19:13.642) Right. You’re absolutely right. They do not care. mean, Texas, Iowa, Indiana, every state that’s gone down this road has paid for it in higher costs, worse outcomes, human suffering. And it’s not that we don’t know better. It’s that the lawmakers are just choosing not to care. Chris Quinn (19:31.204) And what kills me about this is all of these Republicans profess to be so seriously Christian. The whole dogma about, you God and bringing God into government and all of it. And if they spent 30 seconds actually looking at the message of their institutional religion, they’d realize they should be helping the folks they are sticking it to. Where has empathy gone? Leila (19:57.367) Right. And if you also consider the increase that you see in Medicaid births that result from closing down these clinics because there’s no access to birth control, look at where we are now with SNAP benefits and entire families going hungry. And again, complete callousness despite the proclamation that they are pro-life and, you know, it’s incredible. Chris Quinn (20:23.482) Right. It’s a good column that really did lay things out in a way I’d never seen. Very clear. I feel like I’m in the know in my job, but I felt like I was reading a lot of stuff I did not know before. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Anyone driving down I-90 west of Cleveland will notice this. What is the new name of the Lake Erie Crusher’s baseball stadium? It just rolls off the tongue, Laura. Laura (20:50.2) Forefront Field, say that four times fast. This is Forefront Technology Incorporated. It’s based in Cleveland, signed a multi-year deal, takes place immediately, no terms disclosed, but we do know the firm focuses on technology consulting, cloud architecture, and IT infrastructure. So real kind of future looking brand here. The company had partnered with the Cleveland Cavaliers before, and Len Komoroski said that, and he’s the... head of the group that owns the Crusher Stadium said that Rock Entertainment Group actually helped find the strategic development partner. We’re going to keep the Crusher’s name. It’s a reference to Ohio’s wine industry and its brand is going to be showcased prominently throughout the venue across all of their digital platforms and then their signage, the gates, the scoreboard, the home plate backdrop, online channels. Does anyone watch the Crusher’s online or on TV? I don’t even know how that’s possible. I’ve only been to one game there. It is a lovely stadium. Chris Quinn (21:50.81) I gotta tell you, I felt bad for the writer of this story because it’s the biggest collection of mumbo jumbo we’ve published in months. Both the stadium owner, the team owner, and the company, it just works. We’re kind of meaningless. It took me forever to figure out exactly what this company does because it’s very unclear. And they’re talking about the synergy between the company and the stadium. And it was just a bunch of mumbo jumbo to say, yeah, we’re getting a bunch of money to put some, some name on our stadium that, will be very forefront field. I you’re right. Say that four times fast. It’s just not the kind of thing that rolls off tongue. It’s, it’s Laura (22:32.11) And it’s been a lot of different names already. And that stadium is not very old. I don’t know how old it is, but it’s in my recent memory. But it was Mercy Health Stadium in 2021. before that, was Springer Stadium, an all-pro freight stadium. But last year when the Komoroski Group bought it, they promised more family-friendly initiatives and went back to Lake Erie Crusher Stadium. So if you don’t know what this field is called, that is fine. Nobody knows what this field is called. Chris Quinn (23:00.38) but you see it a lot when you’re driving west. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. We never did get a real answer to why the wildly popular weatherman Mark Johnson was booted by WEWS Channel 5. Whatever it was, couldn’t have been all that bad though, because he’s got a new home on Cleveland’s airwaves. Lisa, we know how much this region loves its meteorologists. Where is he going? Lisa Garvin (23:25.191) So he actually started his new job yesterday. I actually caught him on the 6 o’clock news on WKYC Channel 3. So Johnson spent more than 30 years forecasting Northeast Ohio’s ever-changing weather. He says he’s thrilled to be back doing what I love in my hometown. So he was hired at Channel 5 in 1993. That’s the only job he’s really held until now. He did leave suddenly in May, but as you said, we haven’t gotten any details. All the W... EWS would say that it was a personnel matter, suggesting that his conduct didn’t meet the highest ethical standards. But Johnson’s agent, Dan Levin, says it’s unfounded and disappointing and said that Johnson was a model professional. So he was actually hired by WKYC’s parent company, Tegna, as a roving meteorologist for its 64 TV stations, but not including Channel 3. So like I said yesterday, he and Betsy Kling kind of did a little tag team, but he will not be doing the six o’clock. He’ll be doing the five, seven and 11 p.m. weather newscasts. Chris Quinn (24:29.392) The thing about him was he figured out earlier than almost anybody else the power of social media and he became beloved with kids on Twitter. They all knew him not from TV. They don’t watch him on TV. They all knew him because they followed him on Twitter and and he had one of the biggest followings we’ve ever seen. His name was one of the legendary names in Cleveland weather. That’s why it was so odd when he was dropped. from channel five with no explanation. was all so weird. But I think a lot of Clevelanders will be glad he’s back. WKYC, you follow this stuff pretty closely. They have pretty much a powerhouse weather team now, right? Lisa Garvin (25:05.878) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they really do. have Matt Wintz in the morning, Betsy Kling, who’s the chief meteorologist who also doubles in it as an anchor. So I think this might be giving her some relief. But yeah, he seems really high energy. I’ve never seen him before. And I said, wow, this dude’s got a lot of energy. So it’ll be interesting to kind of see what he does. Chris Quinn (25:28.582) Maybe it helps them finally overcome losing Holly Strano. Laura (25:28.622) And just in time for snow days, that’s why he got so famous was the snow day prediction. So yeah, we’re just in time for that. Lisa Garvin (25:34.851) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Chris Quinn (25:35.689) Ha ha. Chris Quinn (25:40.956) All right. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Bill Murray was in town for a show over the weekend with the Blues Brothers band, and he wanted a pierogi afterwards. Laura, where did he go for that and some other Cleveland treats? Laura (25:53.359) He didn’t even have to leave because Rudy Strudel set up a whole pierogi bar for them at MGM Northfield on Saturday when he was there. And Lydia Tramp got tickets to go to this. She’s at Rudy’s and she thought she loves Bill Murray and she thought he needed a proper Cleveland welcome. So she reached out to everyone and anyone she could think of, offered pierogi, punchy and kolachki for dinner. And she heard back that they were interested in a pierogi bar post show. So she made these classics like potato and cheese, mushroom, onions, sauerkraut, kielbasa, and punchki and kolache. I can’t even say that. Kolache. And she was so excited. She said it was like seeing a dear friend you haven’t seen in a minute. And he was as real as anyone would hope. Chris Quinn (26:38.076) Yeah, I saw various people posting photos on social media. So I guess he was happy to pose with people who were happened to be there. You know, sometimes he shows up unannounced and does cameos with people taking wedding photographs and things. So I guess he likes that kind of thing. And everybody seems to love Bill Murray. Laura (27:01.176) I what’s not to love? I said, what’s not to love? Chris Quinn (27:01.732) You’re listening to Today in Ohio. That does it for the Tuesday episode. Thanks, Leila. Thanks, Lisa. Thanks, Laura. Thank you for being here. We’ll return Wednesday to talk about the news.