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Ben Shapiro popped off on Megyn Kelly after she briefly tried to defend her longtime friend Tucker Carlson. The Daily Wire co-founder sat down with Kelly for her latest tour event on Thursday night in Jacksonville, Florida. The previous evening Kelly sat down with Carlson in New York amid the controversial fallout surrounding his interview with Nick Fuentes. Shapiro is one of Carlson’s most vocal critics following the controversy, accusing the former Fox News host of being an ‘intellectual coward’ as well as a ‘super-spreader of vile ideas in America.’ ‘If I see somebody breach basic moral values by having on a Nazi, and in my own view — take your own view — in my own view, gloss the Nazi, then I’m going to speak out about that,’ Shapiro told Kelly. ‘I’m gonna point out that there is a long pattern of him ideologically laundering terrible ideas over the course of the last two years, ranging from traveling to Russia to sniff the bread and explain why the Russian regime is actually wonderful.’ Tucker famously traveled to Russia in February 2024 to interview Vladimir Putin. While in the country, Carlson documented his experience traveling through a supermarket in Moscow. Shapiro continued, ‘To saying last week the Venezuelan regime of Nicolás Maduro is actually not that bad because they’re being attacked by, in his words, “globo-homo.”’ Kelly then interjected to defend Carlson’s viewpoint on the US conflict with Venezuela, resulting in an explosive reaction from Shapiro. Kelly told Shapiro, ‘Tucker’s made the point — I’m not gonna try to be Tucker’s defender — but he’s made the point that Maduro is cultural conservative.’ ‘Who gives a sh*t!?’ Shapiro spat back. ‘The guy’s a communist dictator!’ Carlson recently has called out the Trump administration for applying military pressure to Venezuela by striking alleged drug boats in the Caribbean. Last week, Carlson posted a monologue arguing that although Maduro governs with a left-wing socialist economic agenda, the Venezuelan regime pushes socially conservative policies, particularly regarding LGBTQ+ rights. Carlson also argued that Venezuela does not traffic the vast majority of drugs coming into the United States from Latin America. Shapiro continued, ‘I don’t give a sh*t whether he’s anti-LGBTQ rights! This is the number one thing about Nicolás Maduro?’ ‘You know how far down the list you have to get before you can get to anything remotely recommendable about Nicolás Maduro?’ Carlson and Shapiro have been at odds with each other for years well before the Fuentes interview. The two right-wing juggernauts have opposing viewpoints over a variety of conservative principles, including US foreign policy relating to Israel. Shapiro also pressed Kelly over her unwillingness to criticized Candace Owens amid the rise of conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie Kirk's murder. 'I think you and I differ on our angle with regard to, for example, Candace Owens. I think that what Candace Owens is doing right now is evil. It is evil what she is doing right now.' 'But what, II didn’t opine on whether it’s evil or not,' said Kelly. 'But my position is: it’s really none of my business.' Shapiro interjected, 'But I have a question: why is it none of your business? I mean, you comment on these things for a living.' 'I’m not mother of the internet,' replied Kelly. 'No, but if this were on the left and somebody were accusing Charlie Kirk of his wife having murdered him, I assume that you would be talking about it,' shot back Shapiro. Kelly then told Shapiro she was not aware that Candace has made disparaging comments about Kirk's wife, Erika.
